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History and Tradition vs Ongoing Revelation and Experimentation.

One of the most interesting tensions in the pagan/occult world these days is the ongoing interplay, and sometimes conflict, between the forces of past tradition and historical research and experimentation. I have been meaning to write on this for a while, but this week it was sparked by Frater RO’s post detailing his own inner conflicts of how to view Ian C’s ongoing court of Brigid project. There are two posts from RO, a reply post from Ian, and several running commentaries on all that are worth reading.

I have been where RO is myself. During the period from 1997 to 2002 or so I dedicated myself almost exclusively to Tibetan Buddhist practice. During that period I felt very protective of it, and did the kinds of things that overzelous people do. I issued dire warnings to people about Lamas that had even slightly shady credentials. I blathered about how much better it was to be in a tradition with an unbroken lineage of empowerment going back to the 8th century, and how complete and complex the Tibetan systems were.  I would rage when people would get even the slightest point wrong. I once got so inappropriately rude with Sam Webster over whether thoughts can occur within Rigpa or not*, that I felt the need to apologize for being such a dick years later. To this day I still feel the need to go on a correcting spree anytime a magician or westerner mentions the word Tulpa, or talk about how Chod is for overcomming fear.

Eventually though I felt smothered by its completeness and lack of space for individual ingenuity and revelation. I backed off an began to examine my experiences within the context of everything else that I have ever done. I realized that part of my drive, part of my gifts, and part of what makes the magic work really well for me was precisely that creative energy and ability to communicate with spirits directly – which in turn gives the ability to develop ongoing revelations and create new things through experiment.

Some people are driven by the need to explore the past and re-create what has come before. Some people are driven by the need to communicate with the spirits people spoke with in the past in order to receive new practices and revelations. Still others are driven to experiment and create things whole cloth with as little influence as possible. Some people are so heavily invested in the extremes of this dichotomy that they lose the script, believing that unless a given piece of magic is from an ancient grimoire or unbroken tradition, it must be worthless, forgetting that at one time these thing had their origin in people doing new and inventive work. Others are so heavily invested in the new that they disregard tradition entirely, claiming that whatever a spirit or god happens to tell them automatically carries more weight than hundreds of years of history.

Though I perhaps lean a bit toward the side of ongoing revelation, I try to keep myself rooted in the traditions of magic – even if not one particular one. When I was working with Hekate she revealed four protector spirits that I wrote about in Protection and Reversal Magic. After the revelation of these four animal headed spirits, I found a reference to a tetradic form of Hekate with these four exact heads from the Chaldean Oracles. This was a case of history confirming revelation, which is always very  cool. Later in my work with hekate she revealed nine forms of herself to me, two of which was very sexual and not at all in keeping with her history or cult. I treat this revelation as suspect because of that, and need a lot more testing and verification to make sure it meets my own standards of validity.

Many believe that The Goetia has its origins in the Testament of Solomon, wherein a boy possessed by the demon Ornias. Solomon exorcises the boy, but rather than just leaving it at that, he gets Ornias to reveal the names many other demons, their functions and the angels which can control them. While it is not always a matter of a confrontation with a demon – this is how it is done. You contact a power and ask them to reveal more powers, be they other spirits, techniques, or information.

As part of my writing process for Financial Sorcery I contacted Jupiter and asked him to reveal new arcana that could be used by my readers to better themselves according to the Jupiterian current. First he revealed four goddess attendants who all appeared from four coins he handed me. These four goddesses actually did appear on Roman coins (again affirmation of revelation by historical record is wonderful). Next he told me to work with my seer and illustrator Matthew Brownlee to transmit 16 sigils called the Lightning Glyphs, all of which will appear in the new book this spring.

I have had the opportunity to look over some of Ian’s Summoning materials and can tell you that it is very solid work. Exactly the kind of work that should be being done in Pagan circles, but which all to often is not. There are however a few others. Ivo Dominguez is one of the most solid Sorcerers and Magicians that you will ever find, and his Assembly of the Sacred Wheel makes use of a lot of Ceremonial Magic in a Pagan context. A lot of people do not realize it, but Simon once told me that one of the primary motivators behind the publication of the Necronomicon in the 70’s was to provide the type of Gate work and Spirit often connected with Judeo-Christian Magic, but which would be useful for Pagans. I don’t care what you say, I still love me some Necronomicon!

The issue that some people have is the appropriation of material from one tradition to another. There was quite a big Blog-ha-ha about this a year or so ago, and people seemed to settle on the idea that synchretism was somehow good but appropriation was somehow bad. Of course no one ever really defined what these were or what the difference was.

For me it is all about whether you are appropriating tech or symbol set. Tech is tech. It works because it works. A tibetan style of multiplying offering through visualization and energy, and substituting red tormas for blood offering will work as well in Haiti as it will in Tibet if it is understood and done well**. On the other hand, deciding that you just want to do the same magic you always do, but switch up the symbols and gods in order to feel exotic will usually result in getting your ass kicked.

Ian is appropriating the tech of the grimoires and applying it to the Spirits and Symbols that he is already working with. It is solid work and I expect great things from him in the future.

 

 

*They can appear and function within Rigpa as long as you remain unattached and grounded in the inherent clarity of the nature of mind. It is one of the defining features of the state.

** Doing this may involve having to constrain or even harm and banish spirits that are absolutely blood thirsty and unwilling to make the change. It was not an easy transition in Tibet either.

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Deborah Castellano

I found this to be a thoughtful balanced reply that takes a lot of different people and practices into account.

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runeworker

love the symbol at the beginning of the entry. Where does it come from?

I totally agree with what you said. I think there is a fine balance between tradition and experimentation that needs to be kept. There are some authors and people who do it well and then there are others that seem to get lost on the subject. Mostly what is annoying is when one camp or the other gets caught up in egotistic battles over who is being syncretic and who is appropriating. Can we just stop arguing and get back to what we are really here for?

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    inominandum

    The Symbol is an ADF symbol, one related to the work that Ian is doing.

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Andrew Watt

I agree about the tension between tradition and experimentation. “All history is wrong and needs to be re-written,” argued a colleague of mine in a history department where I used to work; later I found out he was quoting M. Foucault. The essence of that, though, is that every age and time needs to find its own framework for telling its own myths. Tibetan Buddhism and Bon (Bom? spelling… hm) have had hundreds of years of development, but they’re living traditions with living practitioners who understand that they’re working within a scaffolding. They don’t change the scaffolding much because a scaffold only holds together so many ways.

I belong to a druid order, and I’ve done the first level of initiatory experiences with them, but I’m not really tempted to go much farther at this time; I joined the freemasons and did the first three degrees, but I’ve had no wish to go further up and further in. Increasingly, gods and spirits show up and expect to be admitted; I’m finding that I can afford to be more selective; yet I’m also finding that the community of spirits that might normally be at odds with one another are instead making space for each other, together. I think this is one of the things going on in American paganism these days — the people who are doing the work are attracting the spiritual community of like-minded spirits, prepared to work together for the sake of the worker and their community. Diving deep into any tradition requires deep waters in which to swim — but most of these spirits are as yet only shallowly invested in the Land here. It’s as you’ve written about… when the ocean is to the south and the storms come out of the west, is it best to follow European assignments of the elements?

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V.V.F.

I agree that modern pagans could do with a lot of re-education and quite a bit more adventurousness when it comes to magic and ritual. I also think that when a practitioner is drawing from cultures that have been historically marginalized (like the Celtic cultures) or systematically erased/re-written, it’s important to do what one can to preserve what we know of their techniques and philosophies. But I also know that modern Druidism is inherently syncretic, and Corrigan obviously knows what he’s doing. So I wouldn’t say “boo” to his project.

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Gordon

Necronomicon for life!!!

(Mostly unrelated to this excellent post but needed to be said.)

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M.G.

Good post. I wonder, though, is appropriating symbols really always problematic? Haitian Voodoo and other Afro-diasporic traditions mix African Pagan and Roman Catholic symbolism, obviously. I do understand that this was done to preserve their traditions in the face of incredible adversity, but it was done, and very effectively too! Ancient Greeks worshipped Hermes and Thoth as a single deity, as you know. In my own life, I can say that back when I was practicing the Vajrayana, I was told that Ganapati, one of my dharmapalas, was either a manifestation of Avalokiteshvara or that he had been brought into Buddhism after being outwitted by Avalokiteshvara in a contest of trickery. Whatever one believes there, quite a lot of symbolic appropriation was happening. The VortexHealing spin on Jesus would strike most Christians as utterly bizarre and offensive, but the technique they teach for connecting with his energy actually works pretty well. So is appropriating symbols really always a problem?

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    inominandum

    It is not always a problem. It is just more problematic. It takes much more discernment, intelligence, and experience to be able to do it. Also some systems and beings lend themselves to it more than others.

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Henry Buchy

My own experiences tend to lead me towards the conclusion that modern paganism leans more towards teaching religion rather than magic. My own early training stressed what is known as the powers of the sphinx and three fundementals of investigation, as it were, connected to knowledge. Observation, analogy, and testimony of trustworthy ‘persons’. That partly comprises what we call history and tradition, and partly comprises direct interaction with ‘spirits’. I like what you write in regards to tech. I work from the idea that there are basic fundementals in magic which can be applied across disciplines or paradigms, even common regardless of tradition.
As to apropriation vs syncretism, well for me, I am pagani in the simplest sense. I’m not in europe or britain, I’m on the east coast of north america. I’d be remiss if I didn’t pay attention to the numen and genius loci here, nor am I interested in reconstructing but rather constructing my own rapport. Generally it is those ‘spirits’ who tend to apropriate and syncretise with me rather than the other way round.

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M.G.

I should amend my question above to read “is appropriating symbols really usually a problem” instead of “always a problem.” I”ll add that I do know the stories of casual experimenters with Santeria or Voodoo who get burned by mixing Veves with Western Pagan iconography and so on, but it seems like a lot of symbolic mixing and appropriation yields positive results without causing those kinds of problems.

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Miss E

I guess I fall in to the more traditional, complete living tradition, camp. It’s nice to be able to stand on the shoulders of our elders who worked out the reglamon of how certain things must be done, and what we and our spirits can typically expect of one another. I think my main issue with the idea of “tech is tech,” and “whatever works,” is that I suspect people that start there, rather than end up there, may often skip over the underlying principles of why and how something might work, and end up with mess when they start mixing and matching. Even Picasso started off with academic training.
And besides, if you want to work with a spirit who primarily operates in a living tradition, why not start off using the guidelines of that tradition? You learn the system, the principles, then personal gnosis and established relationships can start contributing to your personal work. Just a random two cents.

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    inominandum

    I agree with you that it is bad to start there, but other than a few Chaos Magicians and some of the more inept pagans, I don’t see that as the place where many people start.

    For me, it is not an either/or premise. If the tradition is alive it WILL present new developments including interfacing and drawing upon both other traditions that it encounters (note how much the current neo-traditional Grimoire movement is influenced by ATR’s) and completely new developments influenced my the modern world ( I know of at least one trad grimoirist who summoned an Angel to teach him how to accomplish something, and the angel instructed him how to “Cope/Paste” a quality from someone onto his own soul. Something like that would never have happened if the operators brain had not lived in the digital age.

    It is also important to remember that at the base of every tradition was a person or group of people who were in fact doing the wildly different and new thing, and probably upsetting some more traditional groups in the process. This is true not only of the magical traditions, but of religions as well.

    For me the greatest mistakes are to think that tradition is meaningless and easily ignored OR to think that some past time period was the culmination of magic and that we should be striving to do magic as closely to a 16th century Catholic, 1920’s Rootworker, or Pre-Christian Celt. The wild eclectics and the museum keepers of magic can have their interests, but for most of us, the path should be somewhere in the middle.

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Astrophel

While magic is its own thing, the same common sense that applies to mundane fields of knowledge works here too. To be a real scholar, or a great magician, you have to contribute something to the field. At the same time, if you go about this by completely ignoring all the research and conclusions before you, or mix and match methods (like applying literary theory to chemistry), you’re going to make an ass of yourself. Sure, great new cross-disciplinary fields emerge, like behavioral economics from econ and psychology, and sometimes there are truly new revelations – but they come along as rarely as Einstein’s Relativity.

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Sky Serpent

Nice and balanced blog post. 🙂

Jason, what do you think about Tibetan gTérma traditions? It seems to me that gTérmas bring new ideas and insights into the older tradition, and as such at least Nyingma teachings are not completely static. However, I do see that many gTérmas are are looked quite suspiciously in the west, as they compromise some peoples’ beliefs of “old and unchanged” traditions.

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    Inominandum

    I practice in the Nyingma and Bon traditions and though I have all the Kama Wangs most of what I actually practice (like most Nyingma) is gTerma.

    The thing is that the gTermas over the last few hundred years don’t really say or do anything different than what came before. I mean take a look at Ratna Lingpa Kilaya and Dudjom gTer Kilaya and bYang ter Kilaya and they are almost all identical with a few mandala alterations.

    The tradition is not static, but it is also not open to the wilder creativity that I seem to be built for.

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Christopher DeGraffenreid

Good post. Even as eclectic as I am I find that I seek to build an internally consistent eclectic system. It’s an aesthetic thing. So there is a middle of the road. One should not only know the rules before one breaks them but should have internalized their worldview, sense of cosmology, relationship to that cosmology (where do ‘you’ fit in) before fiddling with things too much.

I have found that the best way to change the rules is to do so not in accordance with what is easier or more convenient but instead in being true to what is consistent with the paradigm in which one is working overall. It goes deeper than knowing, for me anyway, to an intuitive “grokking” in my gut where I understand what I am doing, why I am doing it, what I want to keep and what I want to change…in my bones.

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